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I don't intend to make this a regular thing, reporting on drama, but by being a party and participant I felt that it needed to be discussed.

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Anyone who can't hold up to basic scrutiny on their past as a leftist (I:E there is no clear break with it) probably should be treated that way. Ending up like all the nerd cultures that were subverted through the process of new person joining, not fitting in, demanding concessions, then driving out the people who were the original group can't be allowed when it comes to political movements. It's basically subversion in its most pure form to let an opposing political ideology infiltrate yours. I hate saying that because it feels so trite and buzzwordy but It's how it is.

That being said Charlemagne has a legitimate point, there is a large amount of people on the right currently who are extremely vile people. They are impossible to get along with and make everything more difficult not because they have some out there political beliefs that are not main stream, honestly I usually agree with them on a pretty large amount of what they saying, but because they are such abominable spergs about everything that there is no talking to them. Everything is always interpreted in the least charitable way and small details are hyper focused on to the point of missing the big picture or losing winnable fights. They are uneccesarily vulgar in almost every interaction no matter how sympathetic or convincible the person on the other end is. It's intolerable and makes getting anything done difficult. Treating leftist ideologues like shit has some utility, treating everyone like shit does not.

As for Women...that's a problem I don't see any easy solution on other than getting higher quality Women in to handle it. The quality of female commentators on the rightwing is generally very low because they can get away with it because they are female. Simps will simp for them (we are burdened with an enormous amount of simps, thanks modernity), pragmatic people will recognize that women are needed and be reluctant to drive them out, I feel like for every Alex Kaschuta making intelligent commentary there is 25 Nicole Arbors types who are vacuous thots who add nothing. You could say the same for Men I suppose where there is 1 Auron Macintyre for every 25 guys who lightly skimmed revolt against the modern world, but the difference is those 25 guys get no where near the same amount of attention.

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